Trux (08:41 PM) :
I like taiwan :-)
Trux (08:42 PM) :
they are good :-)
chris (08:42 PM) :
i hate taiwan, they are stupid, some stupid people and a stupid government
Trux (08:42 PM) :
LOL,  they are smarter than chinese government :-)
chris (08:43 PM) :
so so. almost the same
Trux (08:43 PM) :
why do you hate taiwan?
Trux (08:43 PM) :
because people want to be free, and have rights?
Trux (08:44 PM) :
people in taiwan live better than people in china.
Trux (08:45 PM) :
more people can not eat and are poor in china
chris (08:45 PM) :
they can have freedom and rights, just like  HongKong, but the precondition is they should admit taiwan belongs to china
Trux (08:45 PM) :
lol
Trux (08:46 PM) :
how should they give themselves to a communist government.. this makes no sense.
chris (08:46 PM) :
yes, many people are poor, but, if china has the same number of people with Canada or America, we would be more richer
chris (08:48 PM) :
do u know what the number of population is in china, 1,500,000,000!!!! the government should feed so many people
Trux (08:48 PM) :
china still has a bad governmetn
chris (08:48 PM) :
lol
Trux (08:48 PM) :
I know how many people china has
chris (08:48 PM) :
ok
Trux (08:48 PM) :
I think india has more people, 
chris (08:48 PM) :
no
Trux (08:48 PM) :
and the people also live better also
chris (08:49 PM) :
have u been to india?? have u been to china, otherwise how could u get a such result?
chris (08:49 PM) :
india*
chris (08:50 PM) :
chinese people  live a better life than indian
Trux (08:50 PM) :
india has 1,087,228,231 people
Trux (08:51 PM) :
china has 1309923233
chris (08:51 PM) :
ok, china has 1,500,000,000
chris (08:51 PM) :
thats not correct
Trux (08:52 PM) :
that is the highest population I can find china listed as
Trux (08:52 PM) :
the next highest is 1,246,871,951

Trux (08:52 PM) :
it on that site it lists india at 1,000,848,550

Trux (08:53 PM) :
so there is still about a 300,000,000 person difference
chris (08:54 PM) :
ok
Trux (08:55 PM) :
I think the chinese government is happy to keep people poor.  It lets them invite foreign companies to china to get things cheaper.  So the government can get more rich
chris (08:55 PM) :
hehe..u r funny
Trux (08:56 PM) :
who has the most money in china?
Trux (08:56 PM) :
I think it is people of the government
chris (08:56 PM) :
hm...no, i dont think so, it is unbelievable
Trux (08:57 PM) :
after all the government controls almost everything... I am very sure
chris (08:58 PM) :
well, nobody knows..why r u so sure, u never have been to china, i dont think the information about china showd in western countries are absolutely correct
Trux (08:58 PM) :
like the chinese government would tell the truth about anything....
chris (08:59 PM) :
what do u think of right
Trux (09:00 PM) :
right what?
Trux (09:01 PM) :
like human rights?
citizen rights?
chris (09:01 PM) :
why do u always say we dont have right in china?...hm...i want to post the conversation to a BBS
chris (09:01 PM) :
yes, human rights
Trux (09:02 PM) :
because in china,  the governmetn says what you can do.  If the government wants it can kill you
Trux (09:02 PM) :
in western countries.  It is the people who say what the government can do and can not do
chris (09:02 PM) :
we have law
Trux (09:02 PM) :
but you have no say in what the laws are
Trux (09:02 PM) :
you have no say on who is your leader
chris (09:02 PM) :
government have to fallow the laws also
chris (09:03 PM) :
ok..
chris (09:03 PM) :
any else?
Trux (09:03 PM) :
what lawes?  the government made the laws.  They can make the laws for the best of the government
Trux (09:03 PM) :
not the people
chris (09:04 PM) :
hm...in US, the government didnt make laws?? people made it?? u made it??
Trux (09:04 PM) :
yes,  every years there are elections and votes.  You chose who will lead and what laws there will
Trux (09:04 PM) :
if the people do not like a law they can destroy it
chris (09:05 PM) :
hm...seems reasonable
Trux (09:05 PM) :
if the people want to remove someone they voted for as leader they can vote again to remove him
chris (09:06 PM) :
but as i said before, china has the diffierent situation with some western countries, i learned the politicis, it says we have to
Trux (09:07 PM) :
yes but the chinese government does not want to change for the better of the people. 
Trux (09:07 PM) :
the people in control of china want to stay in control
Trux (09:07 PM) :
and they will kill to keep the control
chris (09:08 PM) :
chinese governemnt is a new governemnt, it has been built only for more than 50 years
chris (09:08 PM) :
maybe it will improve  in couple of years
Trux (09:08 PM) :
taiwan is new government
Japan is new government
Trux (09:08 PM) :
North Korea and South Korea are new
Trux (09:09 PM) :
Thailand is new
chris (09:09 PM) :
ok..ok..
chris (09:09 PM) :
hm..any else?
Trux (09:09 PM) :
you can argue about russian government also
chris (09:09 PM) :
about the human rights
Trux (09:09 PM) :
it is new
Trux (09:10 PM) :
I do not care about humans rights so much but when a government will destroy its own people it is very bad
Trux (09:10 PM) :
I have to goto the bathroom... brb
chris (09:10 PM) :
ok

以上摘自于我跟一个美国朋友的对话, 是ICQ上的聊天记录,大家可以看看美国人心目中的中国.

TRUX 是我朋友, CHRIS是我

其实我之前跟他很多次聊到关于中国,他对我们国家很感兴趣的.曾经十月节义愤填膺的要找他辩论,无奈自己英语学艺不精(呵呵, 十月节不会怪我说出来吧),辩论不过别人,就撤退了. 我们聊了台湾问题和人权问题,大家可以重点看一下美国派对人权的阐述

我仅仅提供对话,不带个人立场和任何政治观点哦!